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>> david pecker was a wonderful witness and it was a smart strategy to start with him. as you talked about last week. i mean, having it understood that this is the other principle that you have donald trump as a principal and david pecker and they were making the deal and you it makes michael cohen a staffer and it was a smart move and he did well. the defense laid certain little easter eggs that they'll try to capitalize on. i think they're going to say that michael cohen had a side deal with keith davidson and they did this on his own. >> for a home equity loan for. >> i'm not a lawyer. but you have to -- you have to benefit in some way. the guy ended up in solitary. >> right. >> nicolle, this is why the defense will never have you as a juror. >> yeah. anyway. you'll be back tomorrow. >> i'll be back. >> andrew weissmann, thank you. and we couldn't do this. donnie and claire stick around for the hour. coming up after the break, a stunning moment at a debate in georgia that shows that the republican party is dead as a political party. it is just a cult now. we'll show
>> david pecker was a wonderful witness and it was a smart strategy to start with him. as you talked about last week. i mean, having it understood that this is the other principle that you have donald trump as a principal and david pecker and they were making the deal and you it makes michael cohen a staffer and it was a smart move and he did well. the defense laid certain little easter eggs that they'll try to capitalize on. i think they're going to say that michael cohen had a side deal...
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. >> you have david pecker who details the catch and kill scheme as it's called. the agreement they came to to protect donald trump during the campaign. gets up to stormy daniels, says he wasn't going to pay this. michael cohen steps in to pay it. you have rhona graff come in and say donald trump signs invoices personally. the invoices are attached to the checked. and then you have gary farro come in and say i was the one who did the wire transfer from michael cohen, this $130,000 payment. so eventually we're going to get to michael cohen who's going to say we did the catch and kill scheme. yeah, donald trump knew about it. yeah, i sent this money. yeah, donald trump signed my check. there was an invoice attached, and he knew what he was signing. >> there were going to be a bunch of people in between. for example, the checks went from the trump organization to the white house for donald trump to sign. they got attached to other business records. that may sound boring to many people, but that is part of the bread and butter of the d.a.'s case here in proving that t
. >> you have david pecker who details the catch and kill scheme as it's called. the agreement they came to to protect donald trump during the campaign. gets up to stormy daniels, says he wasn't going to pay this. michael cohen steps in to pay it. you have rhona graff come in and say donald trump signs invoices personally. the invoices are attached to the checked. and then you have gary farro come in and say i was the one who did the wire transfer from michael cohen, this $130,000...
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david pecker. outlets like they're going to bolster that with as many documents as possible. i believe, because they are trying to push back on the defense side that michael cohen all this wrestling michael cohen, a convicted for your. the prosecution has long said we got the documents here. we're going to show this to the jury first. i can't say, can't predict the future but that's a a ribbon a think where we're going. >> host: you mention a gag order last week we saw proceedings outside the trial itself on that gag order. is there more proceedings to come on the gag order this week? >> guest: there are. donald trump is campaigning and he can tune in to post all kinds of messages on social media. it's hard to keep up if you've ever tried. basically the prosecution has introduced four more examples of ways in which they believe he's violated the gag order. we've only had a series of arguments and you pointed out, g about ten then, that we look at something like 14 that are pending before the court. there's an argument on those first ten. there will be argument on another four
david pecker. outlets like they're going to bolster that with as many documents as possible. i believe, because they are trying to push back on the defense side that michael cohen all this wrestling michael cohen, a convicted for your. the prosecution has long said we got the documents here. we're going to show this to the jury first. i can't say, can't predict the future but that's a a ribbon a think where we're going. >> host: you mention a gag order last week we saw proceedings outside...
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david pecker, you had a relationship beforehand. you're testifying under penalty of running a foul with the agreement you had with the federal government and state prosecutors. is there a reason here. but they always used those kid gloves if you will on david pecker. but they're in a tight spot because it's really the attacking agenda, attacking the credibility, but that's down the road. haven't done that yet. >> can they try to convince the jury that what this is based on is just something silly? it's a hush money payment to a porn star. the significance of it just matter as much. this is of all the things donald trump faces, this is the dumbest. which some have argued out there. >> if you're going for the jury nullification angle, you're in a little bit of trouble out of the gate. this is going to be pretty boring and mundane and run of the mill because it's just a business records case. if that's the route, which why are you selectively prosecuting me? maybe more so on a motion to dismiss, but there's more of a nullification issu
david pecker, you had a relationship beforehand. you're testifying under penalty of running a foul with the agreement you had with the federal government and state prosecutors. is there a reason here. but they always used those kid gloves if you will on david pecker. but they're in a tight spot because it's really the attacking agenda, attacking the credibility, but that's down the road. haven't done that yet. >> can they try to convince the jury that what this is based on is just...
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listen to this david pecker said somebody so far been very nice and he's been david has been very nice and nice guy. >> that's yogi was pick so fast 95% democrats the areas mostly old democrat. >> you think of it as just a purely democrat area? it's a very unfair situation that i can tell you what did you think of the david pecker's testimony, at least so far and when was the last time you had a chance to actually speak to him? >> david pecker, you never get him. >> all right. well, that was my mistake. sorry. but let me get your reaction to what was just said by trump. >> yeah so so essentially the thing about david pecker and really why he was so important was he really is the linchpin, i think the key to proving that this is all about the election and not about melania trump, and not about hiding information for personal reasons because they're embarrassing. and i think that was what was so critical about what his testimony was, what trump has been doing, however, is he's been violating the gag order multiple times, including what you just played about saying, oh, he's a nice guy an
listen to this david pecker said somebody so far been very nice and he's been david has been very nice and nice guy. >> that's yogi was pick so fast 95% democrats the areas mostly old democrat. >> you think of it as just a purely democrat area? it's a very unfair situation that i can tell you what did you think of the david pecker's testimony, at least so far and when was the last time you had a chance to actually speak to him? >> david pecker, you never get him. >> all...
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>> i think the jury selection itself was faster than people expected, but certainly david pecker spent several days on the stand and there may be other witnesses who similarly have extended testimony. on one hand, yes. on the other hand, no. we're only three witnesses in, and tomorrow marking the beginning of the third week of the trial. let's see what happens this week and, in particular, how fast these witnesses move. gary farro shouldn't be on the stand all that much longer. rhona graff also was a short witness. pecker took multiple days for his direct examination, cross, redirect, and then even a rekroz because there were so many efforts to try and both get good testimony out of him and then muddy the waters on the trump team's behalf. >> "the new york times" points out, quote, as the trial grinds on in the weeks ahead, legal experts said the defense team will need to walk a fine line to appease both of its audiences, 12 jurors and a singular defendant. what do you make of how donald trump's legal team has been handling things so far? >> they're trying to make it as if he really is
>> i think the jury selection itself was faster than people expected, but certainly david pecker spent several days on the stand and there may be other witnesses who similarly have extended testimony. on one hand, yes. on the other hand, no. we're only three witnesses in, and tomorrow marking the beginning of the third week of the trial. let's see what happens this week and, in particular, how fast these witnesses move. gary farro shouldn't be on the stand all that much longer. rhona...
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former tabloid publisher david pecker was the first witness that we saw last week. he testified that he spent $150,000 to buy and kill what they call catch and kill a story of playboy model karen mcdougal about an alleged affair with donald trump. he said that was to keep it from influencing the 2016 election. he also testified he had no interest in the stormy daniels story, although there was talk of him being the eyes and ears of trump's campaign. so he would hang around and get everybody's story allegedly. congressman jim jordan says it is all pure politics. >> when there is no crime, there is no case and why the department of justice didn't bring or the federal elections committee didn't. and bragg's predecessor didn't bring the case. >> harris: it was six years of going forth who would bring this case. nobody. trump runs for re-election, bring the case. letitia james, the attorney general of new york, alvin bragg, the district attorney of new york city sees what happens when she puts trump's name in her mouth and she gets a case and he will try it, too. thursda
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david pecker was not biased and hostile. if there is a guilty verdict, you can trace it back to david pecker's testimony, the opening witness, because the prosecutors were very, very pleased with his testimony. particularly the cross-examination. they really, the defense didn't destroy him. that probably wasn't their goal, but the prosecutors are happy with him, and the eyes and the ears of the campaign, and he is the eyes and the ears of the jury to the conspiracy to promote the election by unlawful means. >> and the three witnesses that the jury has now heard from and what has been presented as evidence by the prosecution, catherine, have there been any real surprises so far, do you think? >> no surprises, and no one fell apart, and that would be a surprise, because the prosecution would be oops, but we are learning things that we didn't know that were not in the indictment or the statement of facts, and so it is a surprise for the public, but not a surprise for the defense, because they had it, and they had all of the dis
david pecker was not biased and hostile. if there is a guilty verdict, you can trace it back to david pecker's testimony, the opening witness, because the prosecutors were very, very pleased with his testimony. particularly the cross-examination. they really, the defense didn't destroy him. that probably wasn't their goal, but the prosecutors are happy with him, and the eyes and the ears of the campaign, and he is the eyes and the ears of the jury to the conspiracy to promote the election by...
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pecker tomorrow, banker gary farro will resume his testimony. he is expected to walk through the jury, through the paper trail at the center of this trial, joining me now for more on this is cnn legal analysts former us attorney michael moore. michael, we're we're waiting to see what the judge does on the gag order. it sort of feels like this has been taken a while. what do you think well i'm glad to be with you. this is sort of the sausage making of a trial. and judges deal with issues at their own speed. >> they decide when they're going to make a ruling and the real issue on the gag order is that this has been an ongoing problem for trump. i mean, he just can't keep quiet, so probably about the time the judge decides he may do something or have a remedy in place, then that changes and maybe needs to be increased somewhat because there had been another statement, another comment on a witness and that type of thing in violation of the order i really think you're going to hear from the judges week about what he will do on the gag order. i think
pecker tomorrow, banker gary farro will resume his testimony. he is expected to walk through the jury, through the paper trail at the center of this trial, joining me now for more on this is cnn legal analysts former us attorney michael moore. michael, we're we're waiting to see what the judge does on the gag order. it sort of feels like this has been taken a while. what do you think well i'm glad to be with you. this is sort of the sausage making of a trial. and judges deal with issues at...
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they got david pecker to say that michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and then when rhona graff came up, they used her on cross-examination, not to suggest she some kind of liar or anything, but rather to humanize donald trump. they got her to talk about how he was a decent the boss and a man who she liked and admired. so i think what the defense is doing is they're laying back in there waiting they're really saving their fire here from michael cohen then on the banker that's going to be taking the stand, that brin and john were talking about. >> how important is his testimony. do you think to the da's case? >> so he's the least dramatic witness so far, but i also think he's the most relevant to the actual charges because the crime itself goes to the way in which donald trump and michael cohen structure the payments to stormy daniels, the allegation is that they falsified business records. both of them together around those payoffs. and this is the banker for who worked with michael cohen to help michael cohen free up $130,000. he ended up drawing down
they got david pecker to say that michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and then when rhona graff came up, they used her on cross-examination, not to suggest she some kind of liar or anything, but rather to humanize donald trump. they got her to talk about how he was a decent the boss and a man who she liked and admired. so i think what the defense is doing is they're laying back in there waiting they're really saving their fire here from michael cohen then on the banker that's going to be...
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pecker. tomorrow a banker who testified about a shell company set up to pay adult film star stormy daniels will return to the stand. the jury also heard last week from trump's longtime executive assistant, who said trump had stormy daniels contact information. meanwhile, trump met privately in miami yesterday with florida governor ron desantis. sources say desantis requested the meeting to bury the hatchet after that contentious primary race, desantis endorsed trump after dropping out but has not campaigned with him. there's word he may begin fundraising for trump, a governor thought to be a contender for donald trump's running mate this november, is responding to the backlash over a story in her new book. >> it's a story about shooting her puppy this morning, south dakota governor kristi noem, considered to be in the running to become former president trump's pick for vice president, is responding to the backlash over a story in her upcoming memoir. in the book, noem says she shot and killed
pecker. tomorrow a banker who testified about a shell company set up to pay adult film star stormy daniels will return to the stand. the jury also heard last week from trump's longtime executive assistant, who said trump had stormy daniels contact information. meanwhile, trump met privately in miami yesterday with florida governor ron desantis. sources say desantis requested the meeting to bury the hatchet after that contentious primary race, desantis endorsed trump after dropping out but has...
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do you remember when david pecker was asked did trump know? i assume so. you can't assume. strike it. you don't know. he goes i don't know. so there you go. >> lawrence: what a stunning admission. >> steve: over the weekend i actually caught up with jimmy failla on the red carpet of the white house correspondence dinner in washington, d.c., where president biden made left of his ad advanced age. >> of course, the "new york times" issued a statement blasting me for, quote: active and effectively avoiding independent journalists. hey, ha ha, if that's what it takes to get the "new york times" to say i'm active and effective, i'm for it. >> steve: jimmy failla reacts to the jokes. there he is coming up. hey, jimmy. ♪ rock this town ♪ and i wish it could last forever, and ever ♪ other, but type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. i'm under 7. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as str
do you remember when david pecker was asked did trump know? i assume so. you can't assume. strike it. you don't know. he goes i don't know. so there you go. >> lawrence: what a stunning admission. >> steve: over the weekend i actually caught up with jimmy failla on the red carpet of the white house correspondence dinner in washington, d.c., where president biden made left of his ad advanced age. >> of course, the "new york times" issued a statement blasting me for,...
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that's where david pecker comes in. david pecker is critical to the establishment of the conspiracy to promote trump's election through unlawful means where at least one act was taken in the direction of those unlawful means. david pecker was there for the formation of the conspiracy. david pecker helped execute the conspiracy. david pecker's payment to karen mcdougal, which he understood would pose campaign finance law problems, was that unlawful means. through david pecker, prosecutors have got an lot of what they needed to establish that this was felonious and not just your everyday garden variety misdemeanor. >> tried to pull back. does the testimony seem to add value to what the d.c. was trying to prove? did we expect pecker to be as strong as he was, or were we looking for that in other witnesses yet to come? >> pecker had a lot of information that we didn't quite know that he would have. namely, he put himself at multiple conversations either with donald trump and michael cohen or with donald trump alone that hel
that's where david pecker comes in. david pecker is critical to the establishment of the conspiracy to promote trump's election through unlawful means where at least one act was taken in the direction of those unlawful means. david pecker was there for the formation of the conspiracy. david pecker helped execute the conspiracy. david pecker's payment to karen mcdougal, which he understood would pose campaign finance law problems, was that unlawful means. through david pecker, prosecutors have...
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instead, it was sort of this weird kabuki theater or theater of the absurd, steve, david pecker who ran what we nude the tabloid was sleazy, promoting and killing stories. but, steve, that's not a crime. paying people for their silence is not a crime. influencing an election is not a crime, either. that's what campaigns are designed to do. yet, alvin bragg's legal minions in court keep using the words "conspiracy" and "fraud." well, trump hasn't been charged with this. this hair brain prosecution is exactly hearing last week prosecutors misusing the criminal through target political opponents. >> to your point about in describing this. we have been describing this hush money for karen mcdoogle. playboy playmate. stormy daniels. stormy daniels didn't come up much last week. you got to figure okay, they are setting the table, you know, because you guys work in a linear fashion. you are going to introduce people to her, macdougall and bring in the banker, bring in ronna, his former personal assistant and go from there. at what point do they start bringing up some point in time. macdougall
instead, it was sort of this weird kabuki theater or theater of the absurd, steve, david pecker who ran what we nude the tabloid was sleazy, promoting and killing stories. but, steve, that's not a crime. paying people for their silence is not a crime. influencing an election is not a crime, either. that's what campaigns are designed to do. yet, alvin bragg's legal minions in court keep using the words "conspiracy" and "fraud." well, trump hasn't been charged with this. this...
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and then david pecker went to trump and talked about paying michael cohen. so he establishes a lot of key facts in a way that now michael cohen and others will be filling in that timeline rather than relying on michael cohen to establish an entire timeline. because as we've discussed, cohen has a series of credibility issues at hand. >> so a big part of it just making sure other people are going to corroborate what he has to say. >> this the banker that is now on the stand, i think it's interesting to me because it establishes like how significant of an issue this was for cohen and by extension trump, i mean, taking out a home equity line of credit on your own house to try and make this problem go away it seems like a very significant move on colin's park and you when these cases in the paperwork because it establishes that timeline even further now you have dates of documents signed by the bank that fill in that time. even more. speaking of dates, but october 7 of 2016 is when the access hollywood tape came out and we know that ami first alerted the trump c
and then david pecker went to trump and talked about paying michael cohen. so he establishes a lot of key facts in a way that now michael cohen and others will be filling in that timeline rather than relying on michael cohen to establish an entire timeline. because as we've discussed, cohen has a series of credibility issues at hand. >> so a big part of it just making sure other people are going to corroborate what he has to say. >> this the banker that is now on the stand, i think...
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on friday former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker wrapped up his own testimony. the defense tried to poke holes at his krez bltd as a witness, seeking how his tabloid sought to seek profit off the stories they bought. earlier in the week he testified about catch-and-kill agreements linked to trump's 2016 election. but he talked about talks trump set up between the tabloid publisher and two of trump's white house aids, sarah huckabee sanders and hope hicks. we expect to hear from hicks later this week or this trial. the call took place soon after playboy model karen mcdougal took an interview. he spoke about keeping it back saying sanders and hicks both thought that was a good idea. joining us now, msnbc league analyst danny cevallos. good to see you on the set. let's talk about wrapping up the testimony. the defense tried to break down his credibility as a sleazy tabloid. do you they were successful? >> first, you always challenge a witness's memory. they did that, but with a cooperator, you point to all the deals he has made with prosecutors. in this case, he ha
on friday former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker wrapped up his own testimony. the defense tried to poke holes at his krez bltd as a witness, seeking how his tabloid sought to seek profit off the stories they bought. earlier in the week he testified about catch-and-kill agreements linked to trump's 2016 election. but he talked about talks trump set up between the tabloid publisher and two of trump's white house aids, sarah huckabee sanders and hope hicks. we expect to hear...
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. >> todd: when you talk about cohen, order of witnesses, put putting david pecker in there. he seems like a nice senior. it is a battle with michael cohen. they will attack him. you want a witness who said cleaner things before they get into cohen. your thoughts on what eric trump said on sunday morning futures, watch. >> presidents need immunity, if they don't their entire tenure will be filled in depositions and subpoenas like they have tried with my father for last eight years. they will not be able to fufrpgsz function as presidents of the united states. biden, when they withdraw from afghanistan, 13 servicemembers killed, is that manslaughter? >> todd: just on the whole, you see this strategy of lawfare backfiring and donald trump in the polls. what is the end game here? are they going to continue to push this regardless of in the immunity case there is immunity? in the new york criminal case -- will they do it before trump is behind bars? >> you are saying it correct lawfare, using this. you hear mr. trump talk about immunity issue, it is matter that the president need
. >> todd: when you talk about cohen, order of witnesses, put putting david pecker in there. he seems like a nice senior. it is a battle with michael cohen. they will attack him. you want a witness who said cleaner things before they get into cohen. your thoughts on what eric trump said on sunday morning futures, watch. >> presidents need immunity, if they don't their entire tenure will be filled in depositions and subpoenas like they have tried with my father for last eight years....
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. >> reporter: he considered him a friend and mentor, david pecker. >> david has been very nice, nice guy. >> reporter: over four days he revealed the art of catch and kill buying and burying stories to protect trump's campaign. the story saw "the national enquirer's" agreement to pay karen mcdougal $150,000. i believe the story was true, pecker testified. it would have been very embarrassing to trump and also to his campaign. and he told the jury, trump hosted a thank you dinner for him at the white house. >> mr. trump, do you still like pecker? >> reporter: the defense argued trump wanted to quash salacious stories to protect his family, but pecker said he thought it was for the campaign. his family was never mentioned, pecker temperatured. only the impact it would have on the election. the judge refused to let trump skip court on thursday so he could be at the u.s. supreme court when it weighed his unprecedented claim that presidents cannot be prosecuted for conduct that occurred while in office. >> the argument on immunity is very important. the president has to have immunity. >>
. >> reporter: he considered him a friend and mentor, david pecker. >> david has been very nice, nice guy. >> reporter: over four days he revealed the art of catch and kill buying and burying stories to protect trump's campaign. the story saw "the national enquirer's" agreement to pay karen mcdougal $150,000. i believe the story was true, pecker testified. it would have been very embarrassing to trump and also to his campaign. and he told the jury, trump hosted a...
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busy weekend court for president trump x tabloid publisher david pecker takes the stand is first trial. the supreme court hears a strong argument jonathan turley joins as an expert than our sunday panel to discuss the political impact of the cases, next. (silence) (silence) (silence) (phone ringing) boy: please, just pick up the phone. (indistinct radio chatter) man: (on radio) yeah. self-inflicted gunshot, 14-year-old male. (overlapping voices, sirens wailing) woman: he's not moving! (silence) shannon: allegations from payoffs and pouring star through history making case of the u.s. supreme court it has been a momentous week for the trump legal team time to break down george washington university law professor fox news contributor jonathan turley and this week's at bremen briefing. glad to have it with us at. let her they recap of what happened in new york. we've heard about celebrities, stories and all kinds of things. but did we hear about a crime? >> and noaa. this seems to be a trial in search of a crime. what is interesting, after the first week i think there is a real chance rev
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i wanted to go, before david pecker and ask about the opening statement this week. he made bold statements. he basically denied trump's alleged affair with daniels. that's not part of the legal argument in the legal sense, but does that matter and how can that come back to bite him, or can it? >> one thing when you are on trial, in the prosecution or the defense, you need to be extremely careful about what you promise a jury and what happens is both sides listen carefully to that and it will come back, if you have promised something that did not come to play, you're going to hear that. the statement that denying that tryst with stormy daniels, i'm not sure how that will come into evidence, because stormy daniels, is not going to testify, i'm sure the prosecution would love it, and there's no way on god's green earth he will testify so i don't know how that is going to come into play. that's the kind of thing where, he had to say that for his client, he had to say it for the public consumption, and it's going to hurt him. in summation, you are going to hear the state
i wanted to go, before david pecker and ask about the opening statement this week. he made bold statements. he basically denied trump's alleged affair with daniels. that's not part of the legal argument in the legal sense, but does that matter and how can that come back to bite him, or can it? >> one thing when you are on trial, in the prosecution or the defense, you need to be extremely careful about what you promise a jury and what happens is both sides listen carefully to that and it...
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no one knew what to expect out of david pecker. we learned he had been cooperating with prosecutors and he brought trump straight into the conspiracy, the election fraud conspiracy which is necessary to turn the misdemeanor into a felony. he stood up pretty well during testimony and on cross- examination. they did not seem to come after him with a lot. they tried to pick away at his credibility, question some of the key pieces of evidence but he was thoroughly rehabilitated on redirect. the prosecution has to be feeling good. >> jason, the defendant is legally presumed innocent. but, his family is not there. the jury can notice that. these are his friends and allies. some of them have gone so far like michael cohen who is so angry at trump that it might affect his credibility. summerlike mr. pecker who might say yeah, friendly. the guys a liar but we are friendly. we may have committed crimes but were friendly and he has got a whole back story of, shall we say, early complicated allegations, but were friendly. if these are the view
no one knew what to expect out of david pecker. we learned he had been cooperating with prosecutors and he brought trump straight into the conspiracy, the election fraud conspiracy which is necessary to turn the misdemeanor into a felony. he stood up pretty well during testimony and on cross- examination. they did not seem to come after him with a lot. they tried to pick away at his credibility, question some of the key pieces of evidence but he was thoroughly rehabilitated on redirect. the...
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david pecker really gave the case a wide angle lens. we've been hearing about hush money scheme, about michael cohen and stormy daniels , but with david testimony, what we got was a wide-angle lens of a spectrum of ways that donald trump and the national enquirer and their corporate parent joined forces, in david words, to be the eyes and ears of the campaign, to send stories popping up donald trump to the supermarket checkout stands across america, to attack donald trump's rivals, and to find out if there were, in his own words, women selling stories , and then silencing those women. it takes the case from the keyhole view of yes, falsified records, prosecutors argue that, that were correlated with the stormy daniels payments to a larger spectrum of what they described as a corruption of the 2016 presidential election. >> so, adam, here is how trump describes the trial. >> is a rigged trial. terrible. we know that it's a rigged trial, everybody knows did the case is over. you heard what was said that the case should be over. >> adam, w
david pecker really gave the case a wide angle lens. we've been hearing about hush money scheme, about michael cohen and stormy daniels , but with david testimony, what we got was a wide-angle lens of a spectrum of ways that donald trump and the national enquirer and their corporate parent joined forces, in david words, to be the eyes and ears of the campaign, to send stories popping up donald trump to the supermarket checkout stands across america, to attack donald trump's rivals, and to find...
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david pecker testified it was a common practice within the national enquirer. on its face there's nothing wrong with that. jon: interesting. trait will have to say goodbye, thanks very much. >> thank you. jon: coming up the threat is not over after powerful tornadoes leave a path of destruction in the heartland this weekend. meteorologist adam klotz back in the weather center tracking it all >> are storms on the ground as we speak additionally 128 tornadoes hit since thursday. by tuesday of going to set up the could be hitting some of the same areas again. i would timing all of that coming up in my full forecast. bacon and eggs 25/7. you're darn right. solar stocks are up 20% with the additional hour in the day. [ clocks ticking ] i'm ruined. with the extra hour i'm thinking companywide power nap. let's put it to a vote. [ all snoring ] this is going to wreak havoc on overtime approvals. anything can change the world of work. from hr to payroll, adp designs forward-thinking solutions to take on the next anything. if you're a grandparent, you know what i'm talki
david pecker testified it was a common practice within the national enquirer. on its face there's nothing wrong with that. jon: interesting. trait will have to say goodbye, thanks very much. >> thank you. jon: coming up the threat is not over after powerful tornadoes leave a path of destruction in the heartland this weekend. meteorologist adam klotz back in the weather center tracking it all >> are storms on the ground as we speak additionally 128 tornadoes hit since thursday. by...
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i study the david pecker's all day and that's when you say david pecker. i just start laughing. it's insane that that is a real character. so my question is, is somebody that has unique for living i'm looking at people in your polling their mannerisms. >> yes. >> as i'm talking to you, i'm like, what is he what does he yeah. right. but like what how do you make a good impression because you're you're so well-known for this when you didn't mitch mcconnell last night? well, there was a very majors glasses with me everywhere i go. i just something about the rifting mcconnell face really really shy. it's my viewing audience in the way he just starts talk so, yeah, really got the crowd. but you're able to really drill down into little thing. i try. we'll people i try and i was really focused on the jokes yesterday as well and looking at topical and things that were happening in the news to include it. but it's definitely kind of a weird study of people. i'm a big fan of movies and pop culture and politics and i just absorb it and try to sound like these people and it's also an extra
i study the david pecker's all day and that's when you say david pecker. i just start laughing. it's insane that that is a real character. so my question is, is somebody that has unique for living i'm looking at people in your polling their mannerisms. >> yes. >> as i'm talking to you, i'm like, what is he what does he yeah. right. but like what how do you make a good impression because you're you're so well-known for this when you didn't mitch mcconnell last night? well, there was...
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the answer from david pecker, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so the story was not published by any news organization. david pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend, but -- this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now, with court adjourned for the weekend, it also -- we will have key testimony still ahead. we start the hour with our most favorite reporters and friends, two who were inside the courtroom today, investigative reporter suzanne craig and former attorney and deputy assistant attorney carrie whitman. lucky for us, you can check out that you can never leave and you are still here as a friend. let's start with you and your wonderful mug. >> it was a continuation about agreement that karen mcdougal had. president donald trump's lawyers try to muddy the water. i think to -- karen mcdougal got something. she got a cover of the magazine. she wrote some articles and it really was payment for service. on redirect, when the governm
the answer from david pecker, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so the story was not published by any news organization. david pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend, but -- this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now, with court adjourned for the weekend, it also -- we will have key testimony still ahead. we start the hour with our most favorite reporters and friends, two who were inside the courtroom...
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many thought the prosecutors would follow david pecker potentially with karen mcdougall. how will this play out? >> it has been all smoke and no fire as of yet for the prosecution. they have told essentially a little back story how some of the stories came to be that ultimately had nondisclosure agreements entered into with donald trump. what we have coming up this following week unfortunately do not know who the witnesses are. the defense really has a right to have some advance notice as to who is coming in order for the trail to continue in a fair and orderly manner should have that idea but we do not know where the prosecution is going for there is expected testimony from stormy daniels perhaps karen mcdougall the biggest that will happen in this whole trial is michael cohen. i expect will be the only potential link between the hush money payments and some crime the prosecution unannounced into its specifics at this point will potentially make. the cross-examination of michael cohen and his testimony is sure to be the biggest point in this whole trial would just do not
many thought the prosecutors would follow david pecker potentially with karen mcdougall. how will this play out? >> it has been all smoke and no fire as of yet for the prosecution. they have told essentially a little back story how some of the stories came to be that ultimately had nondisclosure agreements entered into with donald trump. what we have coming up this following week unfortunately do not know who the witnesses are. the defense really has a right to have some advance notice as...
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unlike david pecker, he owned himself. he was authentic with his sleaziness. with the fact he and the national enquirer line, but he did not show bias or hostility toward donald trump. michael cohen is hostile toward donald trump. he cannot hide it. that will come out. i will move him up sooner. he has said he is not want to be tweeted until after he testified and i will see you in a month. it leads me to think he's not going to be on so quickly. m.i.c. hope hicks. you might see other people, the people who are just there to establish documents and move those into evidence. >> we know donald trump is preparing for a second contempt hearing over the alleged gag order violation. the first one was heated with a stern warning for failure to offer fax in trump's defense. then you have presented nothing. you are losing all credibility with the court, which is pretty stinking. what do you expect on thursday? >> i really think this judge is trying to hold this over the head of trump and his attorneys. there is a damning image. i think that is sort of what the judge is
unlike david pecker, he owned himself. he was authentic with his sleaziness. with the fact he and the national enquirer line, but he did not show bias or hostility toward donald trump. michael cohen is hostile toward donald trump. he cannot hide it. that will come out. i will move him up sooner. he has said he is not want to be tweeted until after he testified and i will see you in a month. it leads me to think he's not going to be on so quickly. m.i.c. hope hicks. you might see other people,...
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>> well, what david -- david pecker did was he contextualize the whole story. you set the table for the prosecution's case. remember, this is a guy who printed an awful lot of bs over the years. when he got on the stand, he was a truth teller and came across very well and they could not break him on cross examination. so, the story he told was kind of the prelude to the crime. the crime in this case is alleged to be michael cohen and his boss, their boss, president donald , falsified business documents as part of a scheme to cover up the payment to stormy daniels so that she would not talk just before the election about their affair. it turns out that there was a precedent to all of this. there was a doorman at a owned building who is going to serve as a story about having a love child. the story was not true, but he was paid just so he would not put it out there and hurt . in a more important prelude that we heard a lot about from david , karen mcdougal, who was president donald 's mistress for a 10 month period in 2006 and 2007, she was paid for her story, on
>> well, what david -- david pecker did was he contextualize the whole story. you set the table for the prosecution's case. remember, this is a guy who printed an awful lot of bs over the years. when he got on the stand, he was a truth teller and came across very well and they could not break him on cross examination. so, the story he told was kind of the prelude to the crime. the crime in this case is alleged to be michael cohen and his boss, their boss, president donald , falsified...
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he doesn't seem to have party affiliation with david pecker. it's just about how close to political power he could get. arnold schwarzenegger was part of the general leader publications factory, and he required that in 2002. he came with it, and pecker directed his staff to say, schwarzenegger is forbidden fruit. you will not write bad stories about him. he became the governor of california. there's also a financial aspect to this and that ami was floundering around the time that all of this business was happening, and there was the possibility of investment money coming in, possibly from a sovereign wealth fund. and so packer was courting that at the time. so while these things were happening, it was the sort of perfect storm that made -- that made this make sense for him. and of course, it's speculation, that is sort of what we discovered. >> all right. the documentary, scandalous, the untold story of the national enquirer. people should look it up. it is a couple years old, but it has current relativity today. storm at the brother-in-law of
he doesn't seem to have party affiliation with david pecker. it's just about how close to political power he could get. arnold schwarzenegger was part of the general leader publications factory, and he required that in 2002. he came with it, and pecker directed his staff to say, schwarzenegger is forbidden fruit. you will not write bad stories about him. he became the governor of california. there's also a financial aspect to this and that ami was floundering around the time that all of this...
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david pecker was first for a reason. you have both been part of the strategy. how did he lay the groundwork for the prosecutor's case as we look to the next stage? >> really only. that will have a lot to do with the homework that the manhattan d.a.s office stated. remember, this case is not so much about the hush money scheme as it is about falsification of business records, 34 counts of it. what makes it felony is that it was done with the intent of concealing or committing another crime. what david pecker did was establish that other crime, namely a conspiracy to promote or prevent the election of a particular person through unlawful means, where one or more acts were taken in that direction. he laid all that groundwork, the formation of the conspiracy, the unlawful means, the karen mcdougal settlement payment, and the way it was orchestrated, and thirdly, the fact that the unlawful means here was not only the agreement, but the fact that they had services in an attempt to skirt campaign finance law, he knew paying her off to suppress the story with the goal
david pecker was first for a reason. you have both been part of the strategy. how did he lay the groundwork for the prosecutor's case as we look to the next stage? >> really only. that will have a lot to do with the homework that the manhattan d.a.s office stated. remember, this case is not so much about the hush money scheme as it is about falsification of business records, 34 counts of it. what makes it felony is that it was done with the intent of concealing or committing another...
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pecker are helping the defense. i would think that would continue to be the case. i demonstrates a long history of these types of payments. i know they want to get into these salacious details to try to turn the jury on the story overall. when it comes down to it, when you apply the law strictly on how the law should be applied donald trump should not be convicted. >> let me ask you the flipside. who will help prosecutors get closer to victory? >> i think the prosecutor's largely half to rely on the judge in this case. because the judge is going to be responsible for interpreting the law for the jurors. that is one reason donald trump was into this chart with one hand tied behind his back. because the judge has already ruled. the judge has ruled what? you want to make sure i'm clear on that. trial trial rulings has not gotten that much coverage. judge has ruled the fence is not going to build put up any experts to testify before the jury what federal election law says. they're not going to provide testimony to feder
pecker are helping the defense. i would think that would continue to be the case. i demonstrates a long history of these types of payments. i know they want to get into these salacious details to try to turn the jury on the story overall. when it comes down to it, when you apply the law strictly on how the law should be applied donald trump should not be convicted. >> let me ask you the flipside. who will help prosecutors get closer to victory? >> i think the prosecutor's largely...
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and that is david pecker who ran the national enquirer's parent company, testified that paid to catch and kill stories about trump's specifically to help his presidential campaign you don't have any concerns about that apparently, a lot of people do this. >> arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods? no, i think the whole thing is a croc the statute of limitations has long shut out the misdemeanor cases so this liberal prosecutor, manhattan came up with a federal campaign violation that the state of new york southern district of new york looked at the federal election commission, looked at jack smith, looked at and decided not to prosecute good alvin bragg took a case that was rejected by the federal government to resurrect these misdemeanors, i think it's a political hit job on trump six months before the election. that's what i think all right. >> obviously, tiger words, it tiger woods is not running for president and allegation, does it back, it's not. yeah. >> yeah. i think the whole thing is bs yeah, i think it's all bs yeah. political bs and just go ahead. no, no, it just and just to u
and that is david pecker who ran the national enquirer's parent company, testified that paid to catch and kill stories about trump's specifically to help his presidential campaign you don't have any concerns about that apparently, a lot of people do this. >> arnold schwarzenegger, tiger woods? no, i think the whole thing is a croc the statute of limitations has long shut out the misdemeanor cases so this liberal prosecutor, manhattan came up with a federal campaign violation that the...
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david pecker is no saint. the former "national enquirer" testified at donald trump's trial that he willingly used his tab tabloid empire to help the campaign chute colluding the outright manufacturing of fake muse. and while he tied trump and his hen-fixer michael cohen to these unsavory claims, pecker was eager to play along. cohen would ask for a negative piece on an opponent, and the inquirer would embellish it. look at this, a totally bogus story. and this ludicrous piece tying cruz's father to lee harvey oswald and the jfk assassination tone by photo manipulation. most of the media a praised pecker's performance while others trashed t. a. alvin bragg's -- d.a. alvin bragg's case. >> trump's relationship with the "national enquirer" was even sleazier than it looked in 2016. >> david pecker was not a significant witness for the prosecution. and i'll tell you why. because there is no crime. >> david pecker is very composed, a credible witness. he was being specific in his testimony. >> so it was the star wit
david pecker is no saint. the former "national enquirer" testified at donald trump's trial that he willingly used his tab tabloid empire to help the campaign chute colluding the outright manufacturing of fake muse. and while he tied trump and his hen-fixer michael cohen to these unsavory claims, pecker was eager to play along. cohen would ask for a negative piece on an opponent, and the inquirer would embellish it. look at this, a totally bogus story. and this ludicrous piece tying...
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david pecker has spoken favorably of donald trump as a human rhona graff also spoke very favorably of donald trump, and now it's a banker when going through statement how does trump react when it's hope hicks, when it's stormy daniels, when it's karen mcdougal, when it's obviously michael cohen. right? how does that project in the courtroom? that's a big question. if there's a gag order ruling, we'll see how that how we react to that as well. i do i'm eager to get your opinion on the it's immunity case that happened before the supreme court of the arguments happen. there there's a question about john roberts. of course, he'll be so central and all of this or colleague jump is school better, had some good reporting about john roberts really didn't speak much in that roughly three hours of arguments i'm curious. you observe these arguments. how does he steer this? do you think that any of these trials beyond the hush money case will come to a verdict before november. i have a hard time seeing how any become the verdict before november, just because just based on where they all are in th
david pecker has spoken favorably of donald trump as a human rhona graff also spoke very favorably of donald trump, and now it's a banker when going through statement how does trump react when it's hope hicks, when it's stormy daniels, when it's karen mcdougal, when it's obviously michael cohen. right? how does that project in the courtroom? that's a big question. if there's a gag order ruling, we'll see how that how we react to that as well. i do i'm eager to get your opinion on the it's...
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i want to talk to you first about david pecker. this was very important testimony. it was important to make david pecker the first witness here because it speaks directly to what the aim was in having the national enquirer take these stories and kill them. david pecker said in court that this was actually in furtherance of keeping this from the electorate so that it wouldn't hurt donald trump in the upcoming election. >> david pecker was a very important witness, and i think he came through this very strong for the prussic duchenne and really unscathed on cross- examination. when you hear a prosecution witness that appears to be doing well, i am always careful to say, wait until we hear about what happens on cross- examination, because the whole thing could fall apart. i think he came across as a friend and ally of donald trump. he did some important things. one is, he started the story that happens as far back as august of 2015, because this was all about the election. this had nothing to do with the election. this was all about protecting him from his family and h
i want to talk to you first about david pecker. this was very important testimony. it was important to make david pecker the first witness here because it speaks directly to what the aim was in having the national enquirer take these stories and kill them. david pecker said in court that this was actually in furtherance of keeping this from the electorate so that it wouldn't hurt donald trump in the upcoming election. >> david pecker was a very important witness, and i think he came...
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>> i think the first takeaway has to be david pecker. he was the narrator and explained for the jury what prosecutors have called the scheme to buy and bury salacious stories if they were going to be damaging to donald trump, particularly stories involving women, and he said that "the national enquirer" did things it had never done solely for the benefit of trump's campaign. yes, the tabloid had entered into hundreds of thousands of nondisclosure agreements, but the only one involving a presidential candidate and a campaign was donald trump's. >> gio: and we've got another big week ahead. who is going to testify, and is there one person you're looking at? >> well, we don't know who is going to testify. prosecutors won't say, gio, because they refuse to give the defense a head's-up out of fear that trump is only going to verbally attack witnesses. testimony will resume tuesday with a banker taking the jury through the granular details about the shell company michael cohen set up secretly to pay stormy daniels her hush money. cohen is goin
>> i think the first takeaway has to be david pecker. he was the narrator and explained for the jury what prosecutors have called the scheme to buy and bury salacious stories if they were going to be damaging to donald trump, particularly stories involving women, and he said that "the national enquirer" did things it had never done solely for the benefit of trump's campaign. yes, the tabloid had entered into hundreds of thousands of nondisclosure agreements, but the only one...
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>> i think the prosecution made a good decision to start with david pecker, right? he was able to give a narrative of how this entire catch and kill scheme was originated back in 2015. how does executable through the payoffs of the doorman, the payoffs of karen mcdougal and ultimately his refusal on behalf to actually pay off stormy daniels and thing you have to do this, michael cohen, i'm not going to going to do anymore for stories i can't even run because it was not in his economic interest, of course, the payoff and kill stories. he did that purely as part of this deal he had with donald trump and mr. cohen. i think that for the jury, because remember, you want the jury to understand everything and then you can get into the further details. so, this is going to ultimately culminate in explaining how the fraudulent records covered up the whole scheme and covered up his attempt to avoid campaign violations. that is mr. trump's attempt. remember, one key point there is david pecker acknowledged that he was aware of the fact that when you catch and kill stories for
>> i think the prosecution made a good decision to start with david pecker, right? he was able to give a narrative of how this entire catch and kill scheme was originated back in 2015. how does executable through the payoffs of the doorman, the payoffs of karen mcdougal and ultimately his refusal on behalf to actually pay off stormy daniels and thing you have to do this, michael cohen, i'm not going to going to do anymore for stories i can't even run because it was not in his economic...
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tablet publisher david pecker takes the stand in his hush money trial. the first week of testimony and the supreme court hears historic arguments on presidential immunity. jonathan turley joins us next then our sunday panel to discuss the political impact of the cases. next. [ ♪♪ ] (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric because it helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric. qunol. the brand i trust. [ ♪♪ ] >>> from allegations of payoffs and porn stars to a history making case at the u.s. supreme court its been a momentous week for the trump legal team pair time to break it down with george washington university law professor and fox news country but are jonathan turley. this week's bream brief. great to have you. we heard about celebrities and bearing stories in these kinds of thanks. did we hear about a crime? >> no. it seems to be a trial and search of a crime. what to thank is interesting is after the first week there
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now i'm hearing it confirmed by david pecker in court. now my friends are saying, sorry, you were not a conspiracy theorists. there's one candidate up in the polls, we're running a hit piece. and it seemed like it was coordination. i had nothing to go on. then you had the other thing with these catch and kills. we're going through the process with a doorman, paid him $30,000, which is a large amount of money to pay for a story, especially a story we're not even running. then karen mcdougal. she has an incredible story about an affair with donald trump. i thought, brilliant, this is the kind of scoop i came here to break. when are we running it? we're not. david pecker has bought the story to kill it. i thought, what world are we living in ? >> did you ever want to ask why? >> he said this is something david has decided, and that's that. >> you said in that you regret your three years there. was it around catch and kill, or donald trump? what was the source of that regret? >> i, you know, had a journalism life before american media. i was
now i'm hearing it confirmed by david pecker in court. now my friends are saying, sorry, you were not a conspiracy theorists. there's one candidate up in the polls, we're running a hit piece. and it seemed like it was coordination. i had nothing to go on. then you had the other thing with these catch and kills. we're going through the process with a doorman, paid him $30,000, which is a large amount of money to pay for a story, especially a story we're not even running. then karen mcdougal. she...
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i think with the duracell this week as a clear win for the prosecution, david pecker took them inside the room and made all these things very real. >> renato, someone else was inside the room. i need you to talk about how michael cohen's banker, gary farrow, fits into the prosecution's narrative. he takes the stand again on tuesday. >> yeah, that's right. first of all, one thing that does matter, although this case is entirely about false statements and business records, that is at the core of this, and really what this witness is going to show, he is going to backup and corroborate the testimony of michael cohen. we all know michael cullen has got credibility issues, given his prior convictions. he is going to corroborate that, and he is going to show what those payments were for. in other words, those payments were not payments for legal services, but they were in fact hush money payments. so that leads to the question of why there was a cover up in the books of the trump organization. >> one more question for you, renato. because judge juan merchan has scheduled another hearing for
i think with the duracell this week as a clear win for the prosecution, david pecker took them inside the room and made all these things very real. >> renato, someone else was inside the room. i need you to talk about how michael cohen's banker, gary farrow, fits into the prosecution's narrative. he takes the stand again on tuesday. >> yeah, that's right. first of all, one thing that does matter, although this case is entirely about false statements and business records, that is at...
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we have deposed gerard david pecker's and snapchat. now that's what they're saying let's face it, folks, i'm on fire right now like the guy outside the courthouse, right not soon enough. not soon enough but i will, tell, you i am killing this dinner harder than kristi noem kills the puppies moving on, plays even bernie has something to say, mr. trump you have no idea what the ordinary experiences everyday americans off. i am concerned with battling the ruthless dictators like vladimir putin. can we all agree on that? can we all agree? even mitch would agree with that right now? mitch well let me begin by stating what a privilege it is debris at those dinner celebrating ordinary americans and african americans scroll, but to do, let me tell sharp tip or rock to close it out. everybody your been a lot of fun. >> and i had to close it out by said, when i was on the campaign trail in 2008 i, let a chair with the crowd and i would say you're fired up the crowd would tsav ready to go, so you have a long show. are you fired up you're fired up
we have deposed gerard david pecker's and snapchat. now that's what they're saying let's face it, folks, i'm on fire right now like the guy outside the courthouse, right not soon enough. not soon enough but i will, tell, you i am killing this dinner harder than kristi noem kills the puppies moving on, plays even bernie has something to say, mr. trump you have no idea what the ordinary experiences everyday americans off. i am concerned with battling the ruthless dictators like vladimir putin....
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maybe that's a lesson trump learned about david pecker. you don't want to create enemies when you don't have to. pecker didn't want to be there, but he's under a nonprosecution agreement, an immunity deal, and on subpoena where he had to testify. perhaps that's part of it, too. >> tara, your take on trump's comments on pecker. the psychology of donald trump trying to assess and analyze the kind of information david pecker can reveal about him speaks to what david pecker knows about donald trump. >> absolutely. this is a multi-decade relationship. this is the tip of the iceberg. trump has had his hands in all kinds of salacious things over the years, and david pecker controlled a lot of that cremation flow. so it's a transactional relationship. donald trump may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid when it comes to knowing where his bread is buttered, or making sure who doesn't get on his backside, when he can control it. the michael relationship, with michael cohen, he did a lot of dirty work for trump, but then michael has seen the ligh
maybe that's a lesson trump learned about david pecker. you don't want to create enemies when you don't have to. pecker didn't want to be there, but he's under a nonprosecution agreement, an immunity deal, and on subpoena where he had to testify. perhaps that's part of it, too. >> tara, your take on trump's comments on pecker. the psychology of donald trump trying to assess and analyze the kind of information david pecker can reveal about him speaks to what david pecker knows about donald...
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former national inquirer publisher, david pecker, was the first to take the stand. testifying that he suppressed story about trump's scandals and spread lies about his rivals in the 2016 race. also known as fake news. pecker said he served as the " eyes and ears for the campaign at trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when court reconvenes, tuesday morning, there will be more testimony from the banker, who helped michael cohen pay off stormy daniels. now, here's some food for thought. as we hurtle into week two of trump's hush money election interference trial. if the supreme court rules as expected in the immunity case the case brought by district attorney alvin bragg could be trump's first and last criminal trial before the election. joining me now from a former federal prosecutor, legal affairs columnist for politico magazine. msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst, anthony coley, director of the justi
former national inquirer publisher, david pecker, was the first to take the stand. testifying that he suppressed story about trump's scandals and spread lies about his rivals in the 2016 race. also known as fake news. pecker said he served as the " eyes and ears for the campaign at trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when...
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. >> david pecker helped trump more than hurt him. testifying his national inquirer buried stories all the time for a whole host of celebrities. so this wasn't just donald trump. and, you know, killing a story, that's not a crime. >> reporter: trump has pleaded not guilty to the 34 felony charges against him. prosecutors allege trump hid the damaging information from voters and then falsified business records to conceal the hush money payments. outside of new york trump faces other legal hurdles including federal charges that he conspired to overturn the 2020 election. but just recently the supreme court heard arguments on trump's claim of presidential immunity. depending on what justices rule, that case could be delayed until after the upcoming election. jon. jon: all right. can c.b. cotton, thank you. for more on this, let's bring in jaytown, a former u.s. attorney in alabama's northern district. you've prosecuted, what, 10,000 cases in your career? >> maybe a little north of that, jon. but i've been in court a come of times, sure.
. >> david pecker helped trump more than hurt him. testifying his national inquirer buried stories all the time for a whole host of celebrities. so this wasn't just donald trump. and, you know, killing a story, that's not a crime. >> reporter: trump has pleaded not guilty to the 34 felony charges against him. prosecutors allege trump hid the damaging information from voters and then falsified business records to conceal the hush money payments. outside of new york trump faces other...
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they tried with his -- the fact that david pecker himself entered into a non pros. cushion agreement, but that doesn't mean that he's lying on the stand. it seems to be very credible. >> now, pecker also detailed making a payout to former playmate karen mcdougal to silence her account of an alleged affair with trump. yesterday trump's longtime assistant said that information for both mcdougal and stormy daniels were in trump's contact list, and pecker testified that he spoke with former white house staffer, hope hicks and sarah sanders, about an extension of mcdougal's hush money contract on a call with the white house. what do you think the jury took from all of that? >> well, i think that the jury can very easily take the fact that this was an organized scheme. this wasn't just the national enquirer, for example, acting on its own, buying stories that they just didn't want published in competitive -- in competitor's news publications, they were doing this for the purpose, for donald trump, to give him a benefit, a presidential benefit, a campaign benefit that. is
they tried with his -- the fact that david pecker himself entered into a non pros. cushion agreement, but that doesn't mean that he's lying on the stand. it seems to be very credible. >> now, pecker also detailed making a payout to former playmate karen mcdougal to silence her account of an alleged affair with trump. yesterday trump's longtime assistant said that information for both mcdougal and stormy daniels were in trump's contact list, and pecker testified that he spoke with former...
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david pecker has been admitting that. he recounts his dealing with the star witness michael cohen to buy in and bury stories, in order to protect president donald 's campaign. they allege an agreement to then hide financial footprints. they told the jury this will also be corroborated with evidence in , the defendant's own words, showing an illegal conspiracy. he said there is not an actual conspiracy charge in this case. that is true. the word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more colloquial meaning if you have ever watched a mafia movie. they are saying they conspired together. they also attack the whole conspiracy theory, that he attacked through unlawful means. it would be needed to supersize this misdemeanor of financial fraud into a felony case. the trough defense has kind of said, well, maybe the da is being alarmist about what amounts to, however dirty, politics as usual. that is how they argue it. some proclaim there is nothing wrong with trying to influence and to collection. it is called democracy. the da h
david pecker has been admitting that. he recounts his dealing with the star witness michael cohen to buy in and bury stories, in order to protect president donald 's campaign. they allege an agreement to then hide financial footprints. they told the jury this will also be corroborated with evidence in , the defendant's own words, showing an illegal conspiracy. he said there is not an actual conspiracy charge in this case. that is true. the word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more...